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Post by henchman on Aug 26, 2012 22:44:44 GMT -5
And OJ is looking for the real killer.
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Post by DannyA on Aug 26, 2012 23:24:30 GMT -5
And they got Al Capone on tax evasion because they couldn't get him on the heinous shit he was behind.
And Michael Jackson was found innocent.
I've said it before -- an innocent man screams it from the rooftops and fights till his last breath. For him to lose his legacy is one thing. To lose it in utter disgrace is even worse. The "I'm innocent and I'm never gonna talk about it again" is the route Bill O'Reilly took with his sexual harassment settlement and David "Diapers" Vitter took with his prostitutes. Michael Jackson was about to get the biggest payday of his career when he died. And the Jackson Cirque du Soleil tour was the highest-grossing tour in North America for the first six months of 2012.
It has been proven that Lance's strategy works, because people believe what they wanna believe.
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Post by Darren on Aug 27, 2012 0:50:25 GMT -5
People do tend to believe what they want to believe, no matter what you tell them. Mitt Romney is living proof of that. Well, I have an episode of Breaking Bad loaded up, time to press "play".
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Post by Duck on Aug 27, 2012 15:21:32 GMT -5
Until the USADA can show steroids or illegal PEDs in any of the 500 samples the guy submitted, he should be able to retain his titles. He can hardly be blamed for not being party to a process clearly aligned against him.
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Post by Darren on Aug 27, 2012 15:39:29 GMT -5
Yep, 500 clean tests and still he's disgraced. By comparison, National League MVP Ryan Braun tests positive and he is suspended for 50 games. The players association, a union that defends its players tooth-and-nail no matter how guilty they are, appeals and his 50-game suspension is suddenly overturned.
Seriously, it astounds me that a US-based agency would have such a hard-on for Armstrong. The French I could totally see going after Lance, but this whole thing smacks of some serious sour grapes.
Perhaps this is just one man's uninformed opinion, but I get the feeling that Lance's singular dedication to winning has been perceived by those around him as "Lance is a dick".
Maybe if he'd been nicer, hung out with his fellow bikers at TGI Friday's after the race, signed autographs, etc., this wouldn't be happening. He seems to have knocked a lot of noses out of joint by not being chummy with the race community.
I applaud him for steering clear of those jackals, truth be told, but this is the price he pays for doing so, I guess.
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Post by DannyA on Aug 27, 2012 17:04:01 GMT -5
I guess he just didn't have the balls to stay in the fight.
Yes, I feel shame as I type those words.
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Post by Darren on Aug 27, 2012 17:05:48 GMT -5
Yeah, it took a lot of balls to type that, I imagine!
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Post by DannyA on Aug 27, 2012 21:37:38 GMT -5
All present and accounted for!
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Post by And....DREW! on Aug 29, 2012 10:31:44 GMT -5
Lance juiced, and Neil never walked on the moon. meh.
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Post by DannyA on Oct 10, 2012 21:20:52 GMT -5
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Post by DannyA on Oct 10, 2012 21:21:44 GMT -5
Now we know how he "passed" all those tests....
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Post by henchman on Oct 10, 2012 21:34:21 GMT -5
It's one thing to use steroids yourself, but to force others on your team to take those dangerous drugs, is downright criminal. What a douchebag.
And people who defend him, should stop and think. Why else would they be going after him, if he was as clean as he claimed he was.
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Post by Merc on Oct 10, 2012 22:23:20 GMT -5
Stray but related thought. I'm not that big on sports, but I am glad they exist, I admire sportsmanship and fair play and all that. And who couldn't help but admire Armstrong's achievements back when his reputation was sterling and unquestioned. We all know that to rise to the top of any sport takes some heartbreaking dedication and a lifetime of hard work. (The recent Olympics reminded me of that.) Anyway.
I find myself thinking of the kids, all the kids that maybe thought of Armstrong as a hero and an inspiration, because.. he was, back when we didn't know anything. I'll bet a lot of parents pointed to him as inspiration (rightly and well-meaningly) for their kids. Maybe some of them took up bicycling, or were inspired in another sport because of him. And i'm sure some of those kids are hitting their teens now, they are fluent in Internet, they know what's happened. And, what a let-down that must be. That your childhood hero was a cheat and a liar. See, there really is some collateral damage beyond whatever Armstrong seems to see as his own unfair personal persecution. Selfishly, I'd say. Fuck him. What about the kids who looked up to him? I'm sure there were many in the past decade. What a disillusioning thing it must be for some of them.
I'm thinking of my eldest nephew here, who's nine and active in football, baseball, soccer. I love that kid, and I'd hate for him to look up to a sports figure that might someday let him down so terribly as I think Armstrong has let down an awful ot of young people.
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Post by Merc on Oct 11, 2012 1:08:13 GMT -5
Also, some grotesque details; Armstrong and team having their blood changed like vampires. Nauseating. "In a hotel room there, two doctors and the team’s manager stood by to see their plan unfold, watching the blood of their best riders drip into plastic bags. The next month, during the Tour de France, the cyclists lay on beds with those blood bags affixed to the wall. They shivered as the cool blood re-entered their bodies. The reinfused blood would boost the riders’ oxygen-carrying capacity and improve stamina during the second of Armstrong’s seven Tour wins." www.nytimes.com/2012/10/11/sports/cycling/agency-details-doping-case-against-lance-armstrong.html?hp
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Post by boots on Oct 11, 2012 11:13:59 GMT -5
Yeah, I find this whole thing really fucking creepy.
I never liked that guy. Seriously, skinny over musccled bike riders with tight little asses and way too much stamina. Phooey, give me a beefy baseball player with Kirby Pucket butt any day.
I guess what bugs me most is what Merc said, coupled with the fact that so many clean riders (ha, "maybe" right?) should have had a chance to win, they too worked their asses off and gave up everything for the sport.
I heard on the radio though that a lot of endorsement, prize and sponsorship dollars will have to be returned as a result, as the prizes were contingent on him holding the titles that he has now been stripped of.
Damn. That's gotta hurt.
Of course he probably made a boatload of money off of starting the insipid rubber bracelet club, or did that all go to charity?
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