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Post by nycbiscuit on Aug 27, 2012 18:51:41 GMT -5
If it were anybody else other than Scott Walker Lindh, scumbag, I would probably feel differently. There is something to the point that if prisoners are allowed to do eat, exercise, recreate, and do other things together, and allowed to pray together weekly, then what is the point of restricting daily prayer? I have a feeling that if he was a born again Christian and wanted to attend daily services, that there would be an accommodation for that. I don't believe in prisons being the summer camps that they have in Sweden, with recording studios, or Norway, where prisoners enjoy sunbathing, tennis, fishing and horseback riding. But there have been deaths in Texas prisons this summer because they have no air-conditioning and it can get (and stay) over 120 degrees in these places. One prison had their well run dry because of the drought, so they had to truck water in -- prisoners were given bottled water to drink, but there was no water to flush toilets, and they're only allowed to shower twice a week. But the state doesn't give a shit because they've farmed out the corrections department to for-profit companies. We don't need to provide these people cable TV, but working toilets is mandatory.
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Post by Darren on Aug 27, 2012 22:28:19 GMT -5
There's a big difference between necessities and rights. To me, yes, they deserve the necessities: showers, toilets, drinking water, but rights? Eh, not so much. I'm sorry, if you cared so much about the preservation of your religious rights, you shouldn't have committed the crimes.
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Post by boots on Aug 28, 2012 9:48:31 GMT -5
AND we didn't even have to wait until the real news hit today. Is this guy fucking serious?? So if I have consensual sex with my boyfriend (out of wedlock) and get pregnant, that's pretty much the same as being RAPED, ergo..... if I am raped, that's pretty much like having consensual sex with my boyfriend. www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57501768-503544/debate-controversy-over-abortion-rights-continues/Going forward, I think all women should conceal and carry, its obvious we aren't safe anymore.
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Post by DevilsAdvocate on Aug 28, 2012 16:55:32 GMT -5
Your link is kinda hosed.
Ya know, kinda like the GOP mindset.
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Post by boots on Aug 28, 2012 22:51:16 GMT -5
Hopefully un-hosed now
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Post by boots on Aug 29, 2012 13:32:39 GMT -5
So what about this Navy Seal, "Marc Owen", who wrote the tell all book about the raid on Bin Laden?
I'm starting to think this guy's a real piece of work.
If he did this for his own glory, fuck that, goes against every iota of training and indoctrination into the Seals- so he's basically a traitor to his outfit.
On the other hand, if the intention was to make this Obama's "Swift Boat", and it was all green lighted by some super secretive task force- well that's jsut as treasonous in my book.
How does he get to publish with impunity?
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Post by Darren on Aug 29, 2012 15:57:31 GMT -5
I haven't been paying much attention to the story, but the very idea of a Navy SEAL publishing a book about ANY secret mission, for whatever reason, seems treasonous to me.
Of course, when Dick Cheney outed the FBI agent way back when, that too was treason, but nobody seemed too interested in holding that evil bastard accountable.
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Post by Duck on Aug 29, 2012 16:08:56 GMT -5
Evidently the author agrees that the President did the right, necessary thing but has decided for himself that the President did it for the wrong reasons, to basically guarantee his re-election. Which would begin to make sense if it in any way guaranteed his re-election, which it doesn't nearly as much as a host of other things, primarily an inferior opponent.
The truth is, candidate Obama pledged that if he had actionable intelligence he would go into Pakistan to kill bin Laden, and his opponents--both Republican and Democrat--criticized the position as a reckless incursion into a sovereign nation made by someone who didn't understand international relations. Then when he actually did it and killed the guy everyone said it's what anyone would have done.
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Post by nycbiscuit on Aug 29, 2012 16:42:07 GMT -5
GOVERNOR MITT ROMNEY: “I think, I wouldn’t want to over-concentrate on Bin Laden. He’s one of many, many people who are involved in this global Jihadist effort. He’s by no means the only leader. It’s a very diverse group—Hamas, Hezbollah, al-Qaeda, Muslim Brotherhood and of course different names throughout the world. It’s not worth moving heaven and earth and spending billions of dollars just trying to catch one person. It is worth fashioning and executing an effective strategy to defeat global, violent Jihad and I have a plan for doing that.”
What can you do with a guy who doesn't grasp the necessity to complete the mission, to exact retribution and justice, or simply to restore pride.
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Post by Duck on Aug 29, 2012 16:51:08 GMT -5
It's not worth spending billions to catch one person. It's better to spend trillions creating more of them.
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Post by henchman on Aug 29, 2012 18:24:11 GMT -5
Or better yet. Spend trillions waging war on a country that wasn't responsible at all. Period.
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Post by DannyA on Aug 29, 2012 18:45:43 GMT -5
Fortunately, we did both. Good ol' American ingenuity.
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Post by Darren on Aug 29, 2012 18:50:00 GMT -5
Can I nominate Yahoo! executives for their handling of the David Chalian live-mic incident? I mean, was anything he said not true? STORY
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Post by DannyA on Aug 29, 2012 19:50:59 GMT -5
Can I nominate Yahoo! executives for their handling of the David Chalian live-mic incident? I mean, was anything he said not true? STORYI gotta defend them -- they had no choice. If you're purporting to be a news org you have to purport to be neutral. Or more than neutral, which is why recent surveys show more critical coverage for democrats than for republicans.
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Post by Darren on Aug 29, 2012 20:42:58 GMT -5
So he gets fired for telling the truth because news org's would rather further the lie of supposed neutrality?
Okay, how about we nominate John Rich for attacking Clay Aiken, of all people, on Twitter because Clay made a joke about there not being any blacks at the RNC.
When's the last time ANY of us saw a black Republican?
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