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Post by unclelijah on Sept 26, 2013 0:27:53 GMT -5
aimee sang voices carry the last two times i saw her
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Post by Darren on Sept 26, 2013 9:07:40 GMT -5
I lived in L.A. ten years, saw her countless times, she never even once did the song. She did go on a mini-rant during one of her Largo shows where she spoke about how she was getting flack for not doing the song live and leaving it off of her live concert video St. Ann's Warehouse. Her reasoning was that since she felt the song wasn't one of her best, well, why do a song that she doesn't think is one of her best? Artists.
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Post by jammybastard on Sept 26, 2013 14:39:10 GMT -5
she wrote "Deathly", one of my all time faves and was on "Portlandia" before it was cool so she can do no wrong in my eyes.
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Post by Darren on Sept 26, 2013 14:55:34 GMT -5
It's a great song, sure, but if she stopped performing "Deathly", I doubt many folks would notice. Just sayin'.
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Post by Merc on Sept 26, 2013 22:46:31 GMT -5
Speaking of the Superbowl halftime show, you may have read that it's come to light that MIA has been sued by the NFL because she gave the finger for a tenth of a second during Madonna's show a year and a half ago. It's ridiculous, but since Janet's Nipplegate Holocaust that scarred so many minds, the NFL and FCC take it oh so seriously. This has apparently been going on for a while, but MIA only recently started speaking of it.
ANYway, one of the things she's pointed out was that she wasn't paid for the performance. I thought that was odd, looked it up, and turns out it's true. And Madonna wasn't paid either- half-time show performers aren't paid. Instead, the NFL/sponsor foots the bill for everything from lighting, staging, load-in and load-out, plus deluxe air travel and accomodations for the star and his/her entourage, crew, band, and everything else. They consider the slot valuable "promotion" for the artists, and calculate that at Superbowl ad rates, a 13-minute set is worth about $84 million in promotion. So Prince, Bruce, Madonna, Beyoncé- as well as all their special guests onstage- they don't actually get paid for doing the halftime show. All other expenses are paid, but not for the actual performance. Found this very fascinating.
(Edited for sloppy spelling.)
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Post by DannyA on Sept 26, 2013 22:53:33 GMT -5
And very savvy for the artists. Worldwide exposure for just showing up, with all your expenses paid? Priceless.
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Post by Merc on Sept 26, 2013 23:33:25 GMT -5
And very savvy for the artists. Worldwide exposure for just showing up, with all your expenses paid? Priceless. Agree. If they gave Bruce or Madge $10 million or more say, a lot of their expenses would come out of that, and those expenses would be huge. First-class transport, accommodations, tech and lighting and setup, treating your 50+ entourage royally well.. it all works out.
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Post by Merc on Sept 28, 2013 22:26:34 GMT -5
And yurp, sure as shit Prince's Superbowl show is gone from Youtube already, dang. Glad i watched it twenty times while I could!
Danny, saw that SB press conference. The funniest part was when Prince asks the press, "Any questions?" and as soon as someone starts to ask one, Prince just blazes into a song. That was funny. And the press just sat there like nerds.
Great notes Jammy, on the George Harrison tribute. I was wrong, prince didn't come in early. And Tom Petty towards the end seemed to get into it, subtly, not as pissed at being upstaged as I implied with my firstish impression. Dhani's smile was a thing of joy to see, as was his eye contact with Prince as it happened. i didn't know Dhani had invited Prince, so glad he did. Prince's smiles to Dhani seemed to me to say, "I'm here for your dad, man.".
Yeah, Jeff Lynne. I know he produced a lot for Harrison, the Wilbury's etc. but the dude got way too much time up there singing. (No one cares about ELO). He's what Rolling Stone magazine called a "journeyman" musician. Which, when you're a teenager reading it, sounded like a compliment- a guitarist who goes on a journey!
But it really means, a day laborer. Homme de journee, someone who puts down his tools when the workday is over. Not an artist,at best a craftsman. Who does not work without pay, he's done when his shift is over.
Compared to Prince, whose art consumes him, the dude who's famous for showing up unnanounced at nightclubs all over the world and playing two hour sets because he feels like it. Unpaid, he just shows up to blow people's minds at random.
Not to go much further in Prince analysis, just this. He recognized his own talent early, never stopped refining it and developing it. Nurtured it, while at the same time developing the steel hide you need to get through this tough biz, the doubters and haters, the Stones fans throwing Bud cans at you. Dude has balls and spine and talent. And I think this is crucial: Prince has stayed as far as hell away from drugs as possible his entire life. I'd rather him be a Jehovah's Witness than ever sacrifice or lose his talent to drugs. As so many did before him. He nurtured his talent first, protected it, stayed waway from the hard drugs that make people slaves. That's why he's still around today, I think. Sometimes it becomes a demonic choice- your art or the pleasures of drugs? Prince chose wisely, way too many people went the other way.
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Post by DannyA on Sept 28, 2013 22:41:58 GMT -5
Merc! I can never write about Prince again, because I've just been outshone on the topic forever.
Um...what about your goddam blog that Jammy helpfully tutored you on recently?
You do it... a bunch of us spread it on facebook and twitter... you may not make money... but goddam, your words get heard/read beyond us few hundred listeners.
Let me word this delicately: "WHAT'S YOUR FUCKIN' PROBLEM WITH THAT???"
don't make me go harsh. I get PAID to write shit that does not come close to what you do for free for us.
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Post by DannyA on Sept 28, 2013 22:49:24 GMT -5
And Jammy's been urging me to do a podcast forever. Let's do a Merc/Danny chat via Skype and get it going. I'm starting to hate you for being so goddam smarter than I am.
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Post by Merc on Sept 28, 2013 23:33:29 GMT -5
Bish please! I'm riffing in a nightclub for free! As for a Skype, let me round up a Vocoder and a mask that won't scare the riffraff. Loveya.
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Post by DannyA on Sept 29, 2013 0:08:42 GMT -5
Don't make me hunt you down and kill you. But that's last on the list.
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Post by Billypogo on Sept 29, 2013 11:42:48 GMT -5
I would pay for that podcast
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Post by schmenk on Sept 30, 2013 1:16:16 GMT -5
...let me round up a Vocoder and a mask that won't scare the riffraff. Loveya. OK, that sounds beyond awesome.
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Post by Merc on Sept 30, 2013 21:45:06 GMT -5
Danny and my Skype would look like this. It's basically a home movie.
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